Breaking the Cycle: How Confirmation Bias Keeps Divorcing Couples Trapped in Conflict

The loudest voice in divorce is often the one inside your head—the story that explains everything your ex does and why you’re “right.” We dig into how confirmation bias narrows your view, fuels conflict, and drains families, and we show a better path: shifting from case-building to problem-solving with tools you can use today.

We start by naming how adversarial systems reward selective evidence and turn parents into opposing counsel in their own lives. From emails read in the worst light to kids’ struggles being used as proof, bias escalates stress, legal fees, and the sense of moral certainty that keeps you stuck. Then we pivot to what actually helps: future-focused questions, validation without villainizing, and the move from positions (“I want the house”) to interests (“I need stability and financial security”). You’ll hear practical reframes, co-parenting communication tweaks, and real examples that replace blame with clarity and choice.

For professionals—divorce coaches, mediators, therapists, and attorneys—we offer a blueprint to interrupt bias at the intake question, honor emotions without fueling grievance, and design processes that lower costs while protecting kids. For parents, we highlight simple, child-centered habits that rebuild trust and keep decisions grounded in what matters most. The punchline is simple: being right won’t raise your children or heal your nervous system; building a livable future will.

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Transcript

Naming the Problem: Confirmation Bias

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Welcome back to Divorce Coaches Academy Podcast. I am Tracy. Good morning, and I'm Deborah. Today we're gonna dive into something that's been on our minds a lot lately, and it's this pattern we keep seeing where couples get stuck in these endless adversarial battles during divorce.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Right. And it's not just that they are fighting, it is like they literally, literally cannot see past their own narrative of what happened. Everything becomes evidence for why they are right and their soon-to-be ex is wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Yes, which is exactly why we want to talk about this today. And we're calling this episode Breaking the Cycle How Confirmation Bias Keeps Divorcing Couples Trapped in Conflict. And Tracy, this is so close to home because we see this playing out in our offices and in sessions with clients every single day.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

Every day. And the thing is, it's not entirely the couple's fault. Yes, I just said that. It's it's not entirely the couple's fault. The system we have created, this traditional divorce industry, actually feeds into this. And we're gonna break down what confirmation bias looks like in divorce, why our current approaches sort of make it worse, and most importantly, what we can do differently.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Yeah. So whether you're a professional divorce coach, a family law professional, a mediator, a therapist who's working with divorcing families, or you're someone who's going through this process yourself, this episode is for you. Confirmation bias, breaking the cycle. So let's dive in.

Stories That Become “Gospel” in Divorce

SPEAKER_01 2:32

All right. So I think what's most important is that we sort of start with the basics. So when we talk about confirmation bias in the context of divorce, what are we seeing, Deb?

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Well, confirmation bias is our natural, natural tendency to search for, interpret, and recall information in a way that confirms our pre-existing beliefs. In divorce, this becomes really dangerous, though, because people are coming in already hurt already with a story about what went wrong, right? Yeah. What went wrong, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:09

What went wrong way. And that story becomes like gospel truth to them.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

Exactly. So let's paint a picture kind of of what this looks like. Let's say Sarah, a client, comes to see me. She's convinced her husband is a narcissist who's been financially controlling throughout their marriage. Sounds familiar, right? Yeah. Yep. So that's her story. And so now every interaction they have, every email he sends, every financial document review, every interaction with the kids, she is looking for evidence that supports this narrative. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

And here is the kicker. She'll find it. She will. Because confirmation bias doesn't just affect how we interpret new information, it affects what we pay attention to and what we remember. So I don't know about you, Deb, but when I was a young single woman navigating intimate relationships, every time I experienced a breakup or a disappointment in my relationship, I would turn on the radio and I felt like every song that was playing was dedicated to me. This is when we used to, this is when we used to listen to the radio, right? The songs were speaking to me. They were speaking my feelings. Now, was the radio jockey creating their lineup just for me? No, no, it just felt like that because my breakup was affecting what I was paying attention to.

How the Legal System Fuels Bias

SPEAKER_00 4:47

100%. So let's go back to Sarah and her confirmation bias. Let's say her husband sends an email saying, I think we should talk about the kids' school schedule before we make any changes. Now, a neutral observer might see this as reasonable co-parenting communication. But Sarah, she reads it as, see, he's trying to control the situation again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

And on the flip side, because there's always a flip side, he does something that might actually be considerate, like dropping off kit uh extra clothes for the kids without being asked. She either doesn't notice it or she interprets it negatively. He's just trying to make me look bad, or he's lobus.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Yeah, and this is where things get really problematic because the traditional divorce process actually reinforces this pattern. Let's think about it. We train lawyers to build cases. And what does building a case mean?

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Yeah, well, it means gathering evidence that supports your client's position while undermining the other side's position.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Bingo. So now we have a professional whose job it is to help Sarah find more evidence that her husband is controlling and financially manipulative. The system is literally feeding her confirmation bias and profiting off it.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Yeah, feeding it. And don't get me started on discovery, right? We're digging through years of emails, bank statements, text messages, all looking for the smoking gun that proves our client is right.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah, and meanwhile, what's happening on the other side? The husband probably has his own lawyer doing the exact same thing from the opposite angle. Maybe his narrative is that Sarah's unstable and has been alienating him from the children. So now his legal team, Ching Ching Ching, is looking for evidence of that.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Yeah. And what happens is both sides become more and more convinced they are right, more entrenched in their positions, and less and less capable of seeing any other perspective.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Yeah. I had a case recently where the couple spent$80,000, you heard that right, fighting over whether certain purchases during the marriage were reasonable or excessive.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Because$80,000 is not excessive in spending money, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:38

No, no. And they spent that money to try to prove who was more financially responsible. Now, I gotta tell you this: the irony was lost on no one except the couple. Except them.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

And this is the trap, right? The more resources, time, money, emotional energy that you invest in trying to prove your narrative, the harder it becomes to consider that maybe, just maybe, the story is more complex than originally thought.

When Kids Become Evidence

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Yeah. And you know, we have not even touched on what this does to children yet.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Yeah, the kids. This is where confirmation bias becomes truly damaging because now the children become evidence too.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

They do. If if little Johnny is having trouble in school and mom's narrative is that dad is absent and unsupportive, then Johnny's struggles become proof, and I'm using air quotes here, of dad's parenting failures.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Yeah. But if dad's narrative is that mom is anxious and overprotective, then those same school struggles become evidence that mom's hovering is creating anxiety in Johnny.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Poor Johnny. Poor Johnny, man. He can't win. He can't win, little dude. What's happening is his normal childhood struggles. Divorce is an adjustment. There's gonna be an adjustment period. But those struggles are being weaponized by both parents to prove their point about the other parent. Weaponized is the word here.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

And this is just one example, right? We see confirmation bias playing out in custody evaluations and in therapy sessions and co-parenting communication. It is everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Yeah, it's everywhere. And here's what we need to understand confirmation bias is not a character flaw, it's human nature. But our current system in the legal process of divorce takes this natural tendency and puts fills it with jet fuel, like lights it up on steroids. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Hypervigilance. So let's talk about what this actually costs families because I think people underestimate the ripple effects of staying stuck in these adversarial patterns, right? And we talk about the cost of conflict all the time.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

All the time. And the the financial cost is the most obvious one, right? I just talked about$80,000 on proving financial responsibility. When couples can't move past blame and fault finding, what happens is the cases drag on for months or years longer than necessary.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

And that costs big bucks.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah. I have seen families, sadly, spend their children's college funds proving who was more wrong in the marriage. And the crazy thing is, is at the end of the day, most judges do not actually care who was more wrong.

The Real Costs: Money, Emotion, Time

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Correct. And let me interject 93 to 95% of cases settle without going to court. So a judge isn't ever going to hear even all this evidence you've put together. And even if they do hear it, they hear it's a shortened version of it, and it doesn't affect their ruling, right? Yeah. Because in no fault divorce states, the court is not trying to determine who the villain is. But couples will spend tens of thousands of dollars trying to prove it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

But the financial cost, as significant as it is, isn't even the worst part, right? It's the emotional cost. When you are locked in this pattern of looking for evidence of how wronged you have been, you know what you can't do? You can't heal. You can't move forward.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

You can't. You're literally training your brain to stay focused on the negative. Every day we see clients rehearse over and over the story of how they're victimized. And that is not a recipe for moving forward.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Yeah. And it's not just the divorcing spouses. The children are sitting watching this. They're learning that this is how you handle conflict by digging in your heels and proving the other person is bad.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah. You know, I think about maybe like the teenage teenagers of clients I've worked with, when the parents got divorced five, seven, or ten years ago and they're still fighting. These poor kids have never seen their parents have a civil conversation.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

No, they are absolutely growing up thinking that this is normal. This is how relationships work. When things get hard, you find evidence that the other person is the problem. Look at our society today. We do this, right? And and and so much of it is how we experience conflict when we're younger.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

It is. And that that's where we're not taking advantage of opportunities. When couples are focused on relitigating the past, they're missing the chance to actually solve problems and make decisions together.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah. I I I mean, I can give a million examples of this, but Deb, do you have a an example of when you're thinking about how when people are stuck in relitigating, they can't uh solve problems.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Sure, sure. I mean, and we're talking about villainizing people, right? I had a couple where the kids were struggling with the back and forth between houses. The kids were telling both parents they were having trouble, keeping track of like their belongings, their backpack, their homework, their social plans, their soccer cleats. Instead of working together to solve this problem, each parent used it as evidence that the custody schedule wasn't working and that the other parent was at fault for creating this chaos in their family.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Yeah. So, so they more than likely end up back in court fighting over the schedule instead of just, I don't know, buying an extra set of school supplies for each house.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Exactly. We we get blind to the simple practical solutions that would actually help the kids. And those get overlooked because the parents are so focused on being the hero and not the villain.

From Blame to Understanding

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Yeah. And this this happens with co-parenting communication all the time as well, right? One parent will say something like, Johnny mentioned he's been tired lately. Maybe we should look at his bedtime routine. Pretty, pretty normal, right? But the other parent hears this as criticism and gets defensive instead of thinking, oh yeah, let's figure out how to help Johnny get better sleep.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Right. And here's what's really tragic about the whole thing is these couples actually often have the same goals. They both want their kids to be happy and healthy, they both want to move forward with their lives, but confirmation bias keeps them focused on the past instead of the future.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Yeah. You mentioned post-divorce relationships staying toxic. That's huge, too.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

It really is. It's it's massive because if a couple spends two years, three years, five years in litigation proving that their ex-spouse is fundamentally flawed and has a character problem and is terrible. How then are you supposed to co-parent, make that mindset shift after you've been through all that and co-parent with them for the next 15 years?

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Yeah, right. You're you've literally trained yourself to see everything they do in the worst possible light.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Yeah. I mean, I I see divorced parents who can't give each other credit for anything. Anything. Dad coaches the kids' soccer team every weekend for three years, and mom still won't acknowledge that maybe he is an okay dad because it doesn't fit her narrative.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

Yeah. Yeah. Or mom goes back to school and starts a new career to better support her kids and herself, but dad can only see it as her being selfish and putting her needs first.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah. And the the really hard part is these are people who loved each other enough to get married and have children together. But by the end of one of these escalated divorces, they literally cannot see any good in the other person, right? Belletti's book splitting, he talks about this. It's like it just becomes black or white. They are now all bad.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah, and that poisons literally everything: school events, graduations, weddings, grandchildren, every milestone becomes another opportunity for conflict instead of shared joy and meaning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

And it's really sad to watch adult children have to choose which parent to invite to important events because they can't trust their parents, the adults, to be civil with one another. Right. And I'll just I'll just share that my daughter just got married about two months ago.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

And um her dad and I, who've been divorced for quite a while, we shared an Airbnb for six days because we were there to be a family. Yeah. Was it easy? No, no, it's not easy. It was, but it was the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Yeah, and it was possible, right? Yeah. So we've got financial devastation, emotional trauma, children learning dysfunctional conflict patterns, missed opportunities for collaboration, and relationships that stay toxic for decades. That is the real cost of confirmation bias and divorce.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Yeah, and uh Tracy, I think we need to be honest here in that the traditional divorce industry with$12.4 billion last year, right? Has created a system that profits from this dysfunction.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Yeah, that's a hard truth. But it's true. The longer couples stay in conflict, the more billable hours get generated.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yeah. That's really, that's really. That brings us right up to the big question. What do we do about it?

SPEAKER_01 18:46

Yeah. So if confirmation bias is a human nature and our current system makes it worse, how do we actually help couples break out of the cycle?

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Well, that's a big question. But first, I I think we need to acknowledge that this is going to require a fundamental shift in how we approach divorce. Yes. We can't just answer on the edges on this.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah. It starts with changing the conversation from whose right to how do we solve this problem?

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Exactly. So instead of asking, which is the current environment, what evidence do we have that your ex is a bad parent? Instead, we can ask, what kind of co-parenting relationship do you want to have five years from now?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

And that's such a different frame of reference, right? One keeps you stuck in the past and the other helps pull you towards a vision of the future.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Yeah, and we are not saying that we should ignore the past completely. No. If there are true safety issues, patterns of abuse, addiction, those things do matter. But for most couples, the question isn't whether mistakes were made. Of course they were. Of course. Of course. Tracy and I teach conflict resolution for a living, and we are not perfect at it. Like news flash. Mistakes were made. The question is, how do we move forward?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Yeah. I love how you put it in your practice, right? You help coaches move from blame to understanding. And that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing in supporting training divorce coaches, right? So what does that look like in practicality, this idea of helping individuals in conflict and divorce move from blame to understanding?

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yeah, and it's it's it's nuanced and it's subtle, right? But let's say somebody comes in and says, My ex never helped with the housework responsibilities. Instead of just accepting that as fact, I might do a little exploration and say something like, Can you help me understand what household responsibilities look like in your marriage? What did you handle? What did they handle? How did you both feel about that division?

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Right. So we're looking for the bigger picture, not just the grievance, right? To kind of understand this, to discover this.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Right. Not just the grievance, because we're trying to like create a new narrative here. And what often emerges is that maybe he didn't do the laundry, but he handled all the car maintenance and yard work. Maybe she didn't cook, but she managed the kids' schedules and medical appointments. Suddenly, it isn't about one person being lazy, it's how they divided labor and whether they both felt appreciated for their contributions.

Training Pros to Interrupt Bias

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Right. And this is where understanding the difference between impact and intent becomes so important.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Yes, yes, yes. Just because something has a negative impact doesn't mean it was malicious. Right? What's you know, like what's one of the sources we talk about of conflict, difference in values? Yeah. So maybe he worked late because he thought providing financially was how he should show love and support to his family. Maybe she managed the household tightly because she grew up in chaos and needed control to feel safe. Those aren't malicious.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Right, right. Neither of those things are inherently wrong. But they might not have worked well together as a couple.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Exactly. Didn't mesh, right? It just didn't mesh. And when people can start to see these patterns instead of just assigning blame, these patterns of like, that just didn't, we didn't line up together that way. Then they can actually start to move and have conversations about how to co-parent more effectively or how to solve problems and getting to their final settlement agreement.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Yes. What? Moving past the problem cycle, right? This makes me think always about reframing. Instead of he never listens to me, it becomes we have different communication styles that led to misunderstandings, right? Because that that piece in the problem cycle is that appropriating blame. And how do we move past that blame to look at the issue, right? Some of our principal negotiation stuff and and remove the person from the problem. Because then we can start working to that, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Exactly. That first frame, he never listens to me, keeps you stuck. The second frame, we have different communication styles, opens up possibilities for finding ways to communicate better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Yeah. So how do we train professionals to work this way? Because I think there's a lot of lawyers, mediators, and even therapists who fall into some of these same patterns, right? And we do this day in and day out in our training.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Right. And that's the million-dollar question, right? And it starts with awareness. Professionals need to understand how confirmation bias works and how our questions and approaches can either feed it or interrupt it.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Yes, feed it or interrupt it, right? If a lawyer's first question is, tell me everything your spouse did wrong, that is priming the client to organize their story around grievance.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Right. But what if the first question is, what are your hopes for your family as you navigate this transition? Or what does success look like for you in this process? That is a completely different starting point.

Interest-Based vs Position-Based Negotiation

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah. Yeah. And I think we also need to be more intentional about looking for strengths and positive intentions, even in difficult situations. Can you give us an example of what that might look like? Yeah. So let's say mom is frustrated because dad wants the kids every weekend. Okay. Instead of focusing on how this is inconvenient for her social life, we might explore. So it sounds like dad really values his time with the children. How can we create a schedule that honors that while also giving you some predictable time for your own self, your relationships, and activities?

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yeah. So what I love about that is that you're not dismissing her concern. All feelings are valid, not all feelings are helpful, right? So you're not dismissing her. There's certainly barriers, right? Yeah. You're not dismissing her, but you're reframing dad's request as coming from love for his children rather than a desire to control or inconvenience mom.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

Yeah. And that opens up.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

We're going to not jump up on the assumption iceberg here.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Exactly. And it opens up so many more possibilities to be solution focused for creative solutions.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Right. Which is something that we teach in our divorce coach training, and all of us learn in mediation training. And that's talking about interest-based negotiation instead of position-based negotiation.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Yeah. Yeah. So, so for those who are not familiar with position versus interest, can you explain the difference for us?

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Right. So, position-based, I want you to think about like haggling or bargaining. You cross your arms and you say, I want the house. That's it. That's my position. I want the house. It's a yes or no situation. Interest-based instead asks questions about what's behind that. So, what's important to you about keeping the house? Is it financial security, stability for the kids, maintaining your social connections in the neighborhood? What's the why underneath I want the house?

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Yeah. So the position is the what, the interest is the why. And once you understand the why, those underlying interests, there might be lots of ways to meet those needs that do not require keeping the house.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Yeah, exactly. Maybe what she really is looking for is financial security. And there are other assets that could provide that. Or maybe it's about keeping the kids in their school district. And there are other houses in that same district that might work better for her new life.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Yeah. It's options. It is, right? Option generation. This is such a different way of thinking about problem solving in divorce. Instead of this win lose, it becomes how do we both get our needs met? And it's not a perfect system, right? But it's creating opportunities. Right.

Validation Without Villainizing

SPEAKER_00 27:57

And here's the beautiful thing. When we can help couples, people, our clients learn to think this way about their divorce issues, they are also learning skills that will help them co-parent more effectively for years to come, will help them navigate future relationships. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

So it we're not just helping clients resolve sort of the immediate crisis. We're actually building capacity for future collaborations.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Yes, yes. And I think we also need to talk about the role here of emotional validation. Because sometimes I think people worry that if we're not focusing on fault and blame, we're dismissing their pain.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Yeah, it's really important. Moving away from blame doesn't mean we minimize the very real hurt that people are experiencing or have experienced.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yes. We can absolutely acknowledge that someone feels betrayed, dismissed, unappreciated, ignored, whatever it is they're feeling without needing to make their spouse the villain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Right? Something like it makes sense that you're hurt. Divorce is painful. And it sounds like there were things in your marriage that left you feeling unvalued. Now, as we look forward, how do you want to be in a relationship with your ex-spouse as a co-parent?

SPEAKER_00 29:33

As a co-parent, right? So what's perfect about that is you're validating the emotion without feeding the adversarial narrative.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

And I think this is where professionals need training on how to hold space for difficult emotions without getting pulled into the drama.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Absolutely. It is a skill that can be learned to listen with empathy while also gently redirecting toward more productive conversations.

Key Takeaways and Professional Invitation

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Yes. Yes. Okay. I know we're we're at our time mark. So as we wrap up, what Deb, what do you want our listeners to take away from this conversation? I mean, there was there's quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Right. I uh number one, let's say this over and over confirmation bias is normal. If you're going through divorce and you find yourself interpreting everything your ex does in the worst possible light, you're not broken, you're human. Yeah. But also that you don't have to stay stuck there, right? Yeah. You've got a choice about how you want to navigate this process. You can choose to focus on being right, or you can choose to focus on moving forward in a way that serves you and your family, your kids.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Yes. Yes. And for all of our professionals listening, we have a responsibility to structure our services in ways that support healing and collaboration rather than feeding conflict.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Yeah. The divorce industry has gotten really, really good at monetizing dysfunction. But we could be just as successful, probably more successful, by helping people go through this transition with dignity and grace. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Think about it. Wouldn't you rather be known as the professional who helps families find peace instead of the one that helps them destroy each other?

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Ugh. Ugh. And let's bring in the financial argument too. Collaborative approaches are often much more cost effective for families, which means they're more accessible. More people can get help.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

There's more money left in their bank account. Yes. Plus, when we help couples maintain functional co-parenting relationships, we are absolutely preventing years of future conflict and litigation, right? Being stuck in the dysfunctional system.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

Yeah. So if you're listening today, whether you're going through this process of divorce personally or you're a professional working with families, I want to challenge you to pay attention and notice when confirmation bias shows up. Ask yourself, am I looking for evidence that confirms what I already believe? Or am I open to a little bit more complex, nuanced understanding of this situation?

Program Details and How to Get Help

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Yes, yes. And remember, choosing understanding over blame does not make you weak or naive. It makes you someone who's committed to actually solving problems instead of just being right about them.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Yeah, yeah. So before we go, if you're a professional who wants to learn more about these approaches, tools that actually help families navigate conflict rather than escalate it, we're going to invite you to visit our website at divorcecoachesacademy.com. And I'd like to point out it is not too late to join this session of our conflict resolution focused divorce coach training. It just started this week. There's still time to jump in. So schedule a call with us if you're interested. Our curriculum is designed to shift from adversarial autopilot to genuine collaboration, from the gatherer of evidence to win a case to one that supports problem solving with a solution-focused mindset.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Priceless. Priceless. And if you're going through a divorce yourself, know that there are professionals out there, aka divorce coaches, that can help you navigate this transition with your dignity and your family relationships intact. You do not have to choose between protecting yourself and treating your ex as a human being, right? And you can find a DCA trained coach on our coach locator at divorcecoachesacademy.com.

Closing: End Well to Begin Anew

SPEAKER_00 34:26

All right. I think we have gone on long enough. So let's call it a day. And we want to thank you for tuning in to the DCA podcast.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

I'm Deborah. And I'm Tracy. And until next time, remember, remember how we end relationships matter just as much as how we begin them.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Take care, everyone.